- Author: Nevermore
- Date: June 24, 2022
- Expansion: WotLK Classic
Rogues have a talent build that they will generally gravitate towards for the entire expansion, which we call the standard build. However, we also offer a modification of the standard build, which can situationally be useful in specific circumstances.
- Prey on the Weak: Increases your critical strike damage by 20% as long as your health, as a percentage, is higher than your targets. As long as your healers manage to keep you at 100%, this means that your crit damage is increased by 20% permanently — which is amazing, other classes would die for a talent like this.
- Hack and Slash: Sword spec is back, except now it includes axes too! Your attacks have a chance to trigger an additional attack, which is pretty straightforward yet incredibly powerful. This helps you do more damage, and get more procs — a win-win talent.
- Combat Potency: A staple Combat talent, causing your offhand attacks to have a chance to generate 15 energy. Coupled with our various attack speed increase effects, this talent will give you a lot of energy over a fight’s duration.
- Weapon Expertise: Grants +10 expertise (not rating, flat expertise). Fantastic talent, helps you cap expertise with very little effort.
- Savage Combat: Increases your attack power by 4%. More importantly, any target afflicted by your poisons (most often Deadly Poison IX) is also afflicted by the 4% increased physical damage taken debuff. That debuff does not stack, so only 1 Rogue needs to have this talent technically, but in practice every Rogue will have it, ensuring you have maximum uptime on it, buffing your raid’s overall damage.
- Killing Spree: The crown jewel of the Combat tree is a big nuke button that you get to press every 2 minutes. You can use it on cooldown or macro it with your other cooldowns, but it’s also a great idea to save it for when something needs to die very quickly, as it deals a LOT of damage.
- Vile Poisons & Improved Poisons: Poisons are buffed in WotLK, so these poison-related talents are more important than they used to be.
- Glyph of Sinister Strike and Glyph of Killing Spree are must-have glyphs, increasing your combo point generation speed and reducing the cooldown of your Killing Spree by a significant amount.
The last glyph slot has multiple options, of varying viability:
- Glyph of Tricks of the Trade is a very powerful option, increasing your raid’s DPS. This is what a selfless Rogue should use!
- Glyph of Rupture is a good choice in the earlier phases, where bleed effects are at their most powerful.
- Glyph of Adrenaline Rush is a slightly meh choice, only really competing with the other options on shorter fights. The shorter the fight, the better this glyph becomes, essentially.
- Glyph of Expose Armor is a solid choice on paper. In practice, your Warriors will be applying Sunder Armor most of the time, and the two don’t stack. This means that you only use this glyph if your raid has no Warriors, and if your guild hates you, forcing you to be the Expose Armor user.
Your 3 minor glyphs should be Glyph of Vanish, Glyph of Blurred Speed and Glyph of Safe Fall. Other glyphs can be considered, but none are particularly great, which is unfortunate as these 3 aren’t exactly amazing either.
This guide/site is amazing. For anyone running combat rogue in dungeons, I highly recommend going Glyph of Tricks of the Trade. Fast groups will be having DPS ripping threat like crazy (warlock). Currently I run Glyph of Sinister Strike, Tricks of the Trade, and Fan of Knives for my setup.
Hey guys. First of all i’m not a good rogue so i don’t know if this guide is Good, but…. This is the definition of a good guide, good explanations, (a little bit repetitive sometimes, but dont really care), and everything. Thanks guys
Just wondering, what about Glyph of Evis, since it is not listed.
Bc u never use it, envenom is the more powerfull spell, expect short fights like overworld mobs whre u cant stack ir poisens that high, so its in my opinion pretty usless.
this is a combat rogue guide tho
Hey there guys! Glyph of Eviscerate can be another viable option! However, only as an addition to Glyph of Sinister Strike and Glyph of Killing Spree. The third glyph is entirely up to you.
which poisons to use ? slow or fast offhand weapon ?
My guess would be instant poison for offhand and deadly poison for main hand
Other way around. Deadly on a fast offhand, and instant on a slow mainhand
Thanks for a very helpful guide.
I wonder what the reason might be that you include Vigor in the mace version while excluding it in the swords version?
As I understand energy regeneration is a fixed value, so the 10 extra max energy seems unnecessary in a PvE environment – or am I missing something obvious here?
Thanks again for the guide.
You are correct, vigor is a trap talent. As is the glyph that increases energy. You will never cap energy outside of the start of the encounter
Hey, im a human rogue and i wonder if i should use de mass talent in combaT ?great guid ty !