tbc classic pve protection paladin tank gear & best in slot (bis) burning crusade classic
  • Author: Kurathis
  • Date: April 1, 2021
  • Expansion: TBC Classic

A Quick Note About Stats

  • 1 Stamina = 10 Health
  • 1 Intellect = 15 Mana
  • 20 Strength = 1 Block Value
  • 1 Agility = 2 Armor, 0.04% Dodge, 0.04% Critical Strike Rating (Melee)
  • 2.37 Defence Rating = 1 Defence Skill
  • 7.88 Block Rating = 1% Block Chance
  • 18.92 Dodge Rating = 1% Dodge Chance
  • 23.65 Parry Rating = 1% Parry Chance

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Note: It is very easy for Protection Paladins to reach high levels of block chance with gear available in Phase 2, so you may wish to mix-and-match some alternative choices to increase your other defensive stats.

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Here_to_pump
Here_to_pump
3 months ago

You should take another look at gavel of unearthed secrets. 2.70 is mighty slow for a tanking weapon. I would hate for someone to grind out lower city rep and then spend gold on the gavel. The thrallmar and honor hold exalted weapons are better choices but even continuum blade is better than the gavel.

Here_to_pump
Here_to_pump
Reply to  Kurathis
3 months ago

You undervalue the 0.90 second swing difference. For every 5 swings with gavel, you are swinging 7 times with a 1.80 speed weapon. That is:
– 2 extra swings of SoR.
– 2 extra chances to apply vengeance or corruption.
– 2 extra chances to proc SoW or SoL.
If you do the math you will see how much better these are versus 13-14 stamina or 38 spellpower if you are using continuum blade. The good part about continuum blade is that it has more stamina and spell hit (a stat which you fail to mention here).

0.90 faster swing, 6 stamina, 8 spell hit > 38 spellpower.

Here_to_pump
Here_to_pump
Reply to  Here_to_pump
3 months ago

EDIT: for every 2 swings with gavel, you are swinging 3 times with a 1.80 speed weapon.
To explain this better:
– 2 swings versus 3.
– 4 swings versus 6.
– 8 swings versus 12.
– 16 swings versus 24.
– 32 swings versus 48.
Now apply that to your seal.

Here_to_pump
Here_to_pump
Reply to  Kurathis
3 months ago

I’m not sure where you are getting those figures for SoR but right now on the live server gavel is not causing 50 more damage per swing than the swords. It is closer to 30-35.
You continually dismiss the simple concepts of chance and speed when discussing vengeance or corruption stacking. It is a fact that the faster something occurs the faster the outcome could be positive. The weapons themselves do not have an inherited difference in chance. Take your own figures for example:

  • 34 swings over 1 minute = 34 chances to get a stack.
  • 23 swings over 1 minute = 23 chances to get a stack.

Dismissing this with “there are times where each weapon will generate those stacks faster than the other” means nothing. There are times where gavel will reach 5 stacks at the same rate or faster than the swords BUT the swords will do it faster more often.
Your dismissal of the relevance of spell hit is very disappointing. Your spell causes a big fat 0 TPS if it doesn’t land. If you can fit spell hit on a weapon/necklace/ring slot you definitely take it.

Here_to_pump
Here_to_pump
Reply to  Kurathis
3 months ago

“given the fact it’s RNG” – i’m really not sure if you understand the concept of spell hit rating. You are putting the RNG in your favour by increasing your spell hit rating. Since so much of paladin threat relies on it you’d be a fool to pass up the opportunity to have it. You are able to put spell damage into just about every gear slot but you will find spell hit opportunities are much fewer (enter continuum blade and the sword from murmur as big phase 1 options). You only have a limited amount of time where you can sustain consecration as it is so mana intensive. This is why you want to increase the hit chance of your other spells.
You COULD still beat me every time to 5 tails, but since I am getting more flips than you in the same amount of time my average time to 5 heads will be faster. What makes the speed even more relevant is when switching between seals. To get the maximum benefit out of twisting you are time limited in getting your application of vengeance (corruption), or even your righteousness hit on the target and your proc from wisdom or light. I will be doing more testing when I next get the chance.

Paladin
Paladin
Reply to  Kurathis
3 months ago

I would just like to state that I have gone the full 15 seconds with no doges/miss/parry with the KOT sword and not refreshed seal of vengeance. This actually happens very often, or it will take over a minute to get the full 5 stacks. The 2.7 weapon will allow for better seal twisting for more threat.

orcfoe
orcfoe
Reply to  Here_to_pump
11 days ago

yeah you’re simply wrong. my 99 parses say gavel is dope.

Cro
Cro
Reply to  Kurathis
3 months ago

Seal procs like wisdom and vengeacne etc doesn’t go off of a chance to hit they are based on procs per minute which means you will see a 2.7 weapon apply stack’s land more often per hit that you would with a fast weapon. Judgements however are based on a chance on hit which DOES proc more with a fast weapon

Better_than_you
Better_than_you
Reply to  Kurathis
2 months ago

Gavel is no good. Your missing common sense a lot. If gavel swings slower and you miss one time. That window of you not generating threat is way bigger than if the faster weapon were to miss. The slow speed of the gavel is a gamble on if your going to lose threat or not compare it to rolling a dice vs the thrallmar sword which literally is like gambling but your dice now only has 4 sides and they are 3-6. Your never going to beat the other dice with only four sides doesn’t matter if your lucky and roll 6 every time eventually the sword dice will take the lead and it won’t be by a little it will continue to grow and grow as the gap between the threat efficiency is shown. Miss once parried once how long is that exactly before you land a hit? Enough time for the sword to miss parry and land a hit granting threat. It’s obvious.

Inquizitor
Inquizitor
Reply to  Better_than_you
2 months ago

The creator of the guide doesn’t even use gavel of unearthed secrets himself. Check the comments section of the prot paladin stat priority page.

Inquizitor
Inquizitor
Reply to  Kurathis
2 months ago

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Last edited 2 months ago by Furious
orcfoe
orcfoe
Reply to  Better_than_you
7 days ago

post your parses tho. gavel is good for 98-99 range. you getting 100s consistent with blade of the archmage?

Centauri
Centauri
4 months ago

For the Pre-BIS, what about the Trinket “Dabiri’s Enigma”? I realize our health pool is already a little lower and the stamina is likely desired, but it would help hit Defense and Crush Cap a little quicker if you were struggling to get some drops.

Alexander Shaner
Alexander Shaner
3 months ago

What is tbcDB and why not use wowhead? Clicking on items like devilshark cape don’t give me any information on where they’re from or anything. Not upset just asking – I don’t know if I’m missing a function of the tbcDB website.

Thanks!

Alexander Shaner
Alexander Shaner
Reply to  Alexander Shaner
3 months ago

I just found the little wowhead button! THanks!

Alexander Shaner
Alexander Shaner
2 months ago

What do you think about the cloak and neckpiece from Frost Lord Ahune? They seem pretty good.

Alexander Shaner
Alexander Shaner
Reply to  Kurathis
2 months ago

Makes sense, thanks. Just to be sure though, if in my case I still had 103% avoidance with the icebound cloak, I would want the extra stam from it right?

Odïn
Odïn
5 months ago

how about thunderfury for phase 1? isn’t it better if u’re tanking 3-4 mobs at ones or if u’re tanking a boss because of the reduced attack speed? as well as the proc dmg

Last edited 5 months ago by Odïn
Lacura
Lacura
5 months ago

how about “tankatronic goggles” instead of “Justicar Faceguard” or “Faceguard of Determination” ? Is the T4 bonus with 4 set items (+15% holy shield damage) necessary?

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