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Lassekaae
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I personally think that you should only need what you can use and greed/pass on everything else.
Where does the argument “Need BOE for AH” come from and why is that > Personal upgrade.

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Topic starter Posted : 06/05/2019 1:14 am
IronBrutzler
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Need for AH is just stupid. I really hate people that do this and hopefully my guild will kick people that do this.

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Posted : 06/05/2019 1:24 am
teebling
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What? Who would ever be able to justify this?

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Posted : 06/05/2019 1:34 am
Lassekaae
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Well some people think its the right way to distribute loot.

For example, look in the comment section:
https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/bidu4u/hunter_weapons/em0jwke/

1. Shouldn't everyone need on BoE?
2. Yes.

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Topic starter Posted : 06/05/2019 1:51 am
teebling
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I'd always, every time, expect everyone to Greed on BoE stuff in general. If an item was needed then it was for a good reason that they could justify.

I'd never play dungeons with anyone needing on BoE to sell to the AH - that's totally whack and would lead to some pretty nasty disagreements.

Now... if baron rivendaire's mount dropped? That's obviously an 'everyone need' scenario. But for general BoE that could make some gold in the AH - I'd kick anyone needing on everything after the third roll/example of that kind of behaviour.

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Posted : 06/05/2019 1:54 am
Rakeem
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I think it depends on who you are playing with. An example would be if https://classic.wowhead.com/item=14551/edgemasters-handguards dropped while I am with my friends I would expect them to pass because its BiS for Warriors but if I was with randoms I would understand if people needed for AH because that could be their epic mount.

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Posted : 06/05/2019 2:18 am
Lassekaae
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Yes, it could be their epic mount but it could also be a huge upgrade for a person.
If [Hurricane] drops, it would only be fair that the hunter gets it, not a mage. The game is not about gold, but progression. Needing loot others need for you to buy a mount is just plain selfish.

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Topic starter Posted : 06/05/2019 2:31 am
IronBrutzler
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okay but there is a diffrence of people just need a BOE or if you communicate with you group but even then the NEED button is for NEEDED equipment not selling things.

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Posted : 06/05/2019 2:34 am
Lassekaae
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Agreed IronBrutzler.
Communication is key, but i just hope the standard for looting aren't needing on BOE for AH.

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Topic starter Posted : 06/05/2019 2:38 am
Skuggfax
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I think this mostly comes from BOE drops that are extremely valuable. For instance say a flask recipe drops and you have an alchemist in the group, or the Truefaith Vestment pattern drops and you have a priest in the group, should this person be allowed to have it even though it's potentially worth as much as an epic mount? Usually recipes like these are determined beforehand what will be done if they drop but this goes for a bunch of other items as well. Say you are doing a low level dungeon and Feet of the Lynx drop. Even though this will almost certainly be an upgrade to any low level hunter or rogue, should you give it to them when everyone knows these shoes will be worth possibly hundreds of gold to a twink? I don't like people that need BOE items "for AH" but I think there are some exceptions when an item is worth an absurd amount.

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Posted : 06/05/2019 2:46 am
Rakeem
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I also agree communication is key, and I think that is what it really comes down to. If everyone is understanding that if you NEED a BOE then you must equip it on the spot then I am all for that. But I am also all for NEEDING BOE's for the AH if everyone is in agreement. I think it just comes down to who is in your group.

Needing a BOE unexpectedly is just another word for Ninja'ing.
Say you are doing a low level dungeon and Feet of the Lynx drop. Even though this will almost certainly be an upgrade to any low level hunter or rogue, should you give it to them when everyone knows these shoes will be worth possibly hundreds of gold to a twink? I don't like people that need BOE items "for AH" but I think there are some exceptions when an item is worth an absurd amount.

I agree with this and would use https://classic.wowhead.com/item=1935/assassins-blade and https://classic.wowhead.com/item=1482/shadowfang for example. These items are definitely great at the time but will be worth a lot more when the server matures.

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Posted : 06/05/2019 2:48 am
Griznak
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This post makes me happy, after reading some of the comments about this on /r/classicwow.

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Posted : 06/05/2019 3:21 am
Skuggfax
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This post makes me happy, after reading some of the comments about this on /r/classicwow.

Yikes, reading through those comments certainly is scary. I really hope that mentality won't become widespread in Classic, seems like an awfully negative approach to have.

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Posted : 06/05/2019 3:30 am
IronBrutzler
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This post makes me happy, after reading some of the comments about this on /r/classicwow.

ohhh god, hope the reddit folks only make 1% of the real playerbase. the twink argument is one of the worse.

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Posted : 06/05/2019 3:42 am
Nayami
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Communication is the thing. I have joined groups where one person is repeatedly running the instance for one piece of gear, and everyone knows in advance that if it drops its theirs, whether you also need it or not. Don't agree? Then don't join the party! Everything in Classic is about player dynamics and harmony.

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Posted : 07/05/2019 2:04 am
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