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Should holy paladins be spamming their execute hammer at -20%?

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Iban
 Iban
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Like if it’s very high damage per mana/time I guess we should try to use it every 30 seconds, even if our assigned role is healing. What do you think

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Topic starter Posted : 23/11/2019 6:47 am
Vlostek
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It’s situational.

Is the party/raid struggling to stay alive to kill the boss? Keep healing.

Is the boss being spanked easily with everyone alive and at +90% health (and you are not the MT/OT designated healer)? Execute away.

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Posted : 23/11/2019 1:40 pm
almarsguides
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Vlostek speaks the tru tru

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Posted : 23/11/2019 5:15 pm
Stfuppercut
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It’s situational.

Sometimes you have to make decisions.

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Posted : 23/11/2019 10:27 pm
Iban
 Iban
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I don't think it's very situational. you can only press it every 30 seconds. Plus most of the time there is SOME healing to do, but it's not clearcut how much. What I want to know is how it compares to other dps in terms of damage per mana spent/time casted

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Topic starter Posted : 24/11/2019 10:13 am
Stfuppercut
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I don't think it's very situational. you can only press it every 30 seconds. Plus most of the time there is SOME healing to do, but it's not clearcut how much. What I want to know is how it compares to other dps in terms of damage per mana spent/time casted

It is entirely situational. Do you need to heal? Then you should be healing. Dont need to heal? You can contribute to DPS so you arent being usless. You dont need to compare it to other DPS, because you arent a DPS, you are a healer. The DPS you do with hammer or ANY dps you do as a healer is irrelevant because you should have a healing assignment which is always your priority. If you are adequately sustaining your healing target and can do damage - do damage. Even if that damage is negligible and its filling empty time where you would be standing around, its more valuable than standing around. If you are trying to do negligible damage and end up letting your heal assignment die - youre bad. But what if your damage is super duper powerful as a healer!!!??? It doesnt matter, in a raid of 40 people, you just keep your healing assignment alive and the boss dies.

Sometimes you have to make decisions. Ughhhhhhh... Sometimes that means you will heal and othertimes when you dont need to heal, you can do damage.

"What is better, do damage or do healing for Classic? Me wants to be always good? So damage good or heals?"
It depends.

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Posted : 25/11/2019 6:18 pm
Faendor
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Are you guys seriously having a discussion about whether you should use hammer of wrath in between healing? Cmon.

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Posted : 25/11/2019 10:51 pm
Caperfin
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Are you guys seriously having a discussion about whether you should use hammer of wrath in between healing? Cmon.

All the cool kids play as a battle healer LoL

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Posted : 26/11/2019 2:44 am
Faendor
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Rocket science here Roll

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Posted : 26/11/2019 3:29 am
Stfuppercut
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All the cool kids play as a battle healer LoL

Don’t laugh too hard, this sounds like the sort of nonsense you would write a guide about unironically. LoL

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Posted : 26/11/2019 10:23 am
Caperfin
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Don’t laugh too hard, this sounds like the sort of nonsense you would write a guide about unironically.

I was being facetious, a "battle healer" is very much a thing in the form of a support paladin (T1 paladin melee). People who spend some time in the paladin community would know this... Unfortunately, it has a low PPM in Classic so I am not interested in it.

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Posted : 27/11/2019 5:34 am
rijndael
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Is the boss at 1% and your raid needs to drop them quick or else risk a wipe? Maybe.

Otherwise, no.

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Posted : 27/11/2019 7:46 am
Stfuppercut
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I was being facetious, a "battle healer" is very much a thing in the form of a support paladin (T1 paladin melee). People who spend some time in the paladin community would know this... Unfortunately, it has a low PPM in Classic so I am not interested in it.

I knew you'd think it was, which is why I was teasing you. I can save you the effort of testing it and tell you that its a silly idea and its not worthwhile.

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Posted : 27/11/2019 12:32 pm
Pippina
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My buddy plays a holy paladin, I run dungeons with him, he's our healer, and is OOM every other fight because he's standing in the mosh pit with the rest of the DPS spamming all his mana on offensive spells swinging a big 2handed sword doing DPS. Our raid team's mantra is ABP, Always Be Pullin. My buddy heals using the NBH method of Never Be Healin. It works really well when all 5 people in the group are in voice chat talking shit the entire time and not caring about wipes or clear times

"Was that a heal? I forgot what those felt like"
"Shut up bitch you'll get healed when you deserve it"
LoL

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Posted : 27/11/2019 1:54 pm
Caperfin
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I was being facetious, a "battle healer" is very much a thing in the form of a support paladin (T1 paladin melee). People who spend some time in the paladin community would know this... Unfortunately, it has a low PPM in Classic so I am not interested in it.

I knew you'd think it was, which is why I was teasing you. I can save you the effort of testing it and tell you that its a silly idea and its not worthwhile.

Not my thinking or idea, its a relatively common notion for +4 years in the paladin community. Seeing as how it has a low PPM in Classic and the heal doesn't compensate for the 70% dps output, it doesn't interest me.

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Posted : 28/11/2019 1:30 am
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