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Hunter Weapons: Dwarven Hand Cannon VS CSX

Hinien
(@hinien)
Eminent Member

Hi everybody,

I was just wondering how those two weapons compare to each other, when used by a dwarf Hunter:

https://classic.wowhead.com/item=2099/dwarven-hand-cannon
https://classic.wowhead.com/item=18738/carapace-spine-crossbow

I know that slower weapons are usually better, but I cannot find any information on the fireball effect of the gun (proc chance, hidden CD).
Also, what does the dwarven racial weapon skill gives in numbers?

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Topic starter Posted : 14/10/2019 12:36 am
Stfuppercut
(@stfuppercut)
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Honestly, dwarven hand cannon is currently selling for 100-200g on my server. You could likely pay for a reserve on a leaf for that price in MC. With the availability of MC pugs, I would just try and get the leaf.

Hunter weapon progression (any dungeon blue) -> Leaf.

I see many hunters joining my raid teams with https://classic.wowhead.com/item=17753/verdant-keepers-aim and quickly graduating to https://classic.wowhead.com/item=18713/rhokdelar-longbow-of-the-ancient-keepers .

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Posted : 14/10/2019 2:09 am
Hinien
(@hinien)
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I reckon Rhok'Delar also requires to kill Onyxia, wich only has 30% chance of dropping the required item.

For at least a couple of months, I have IRL issues that prevent me to play for more than a couple hours straight. Adding to that, I have 1 or 2 free evenings a week. This makes committing to a raid a bit problematic.

I will get Rhok'delar sooner or later, but since gold is not really a problem of mine, I woudn't mind spending 150g to get pre raid BiS. BUT I didn't think about paying for a reservation in pugs... that could work.
Thanks

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Topic starter Posted : 14/10/2019 2:44 am
Ava
 Ava
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https://classic.wowhead.com/item=2099/dwarven-hand-cannon

is the better weapon. It boils down to if you want to spend that amount of money to get it.

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Posted : 14/10/2019 3:53 am
Hinien
(@hinien)
Eminent Member

After some research I found that as a dwarf it is considerably better:

hit chance cap goes from 9% to 6%:
https://www.wowhead.com/news=292085/hit-cap-in-classic-wow-clarifications#targetText=Blizzard%20has%20confirmed%20that%20the,a%20Defense%20Skill%20of%20315

https://github.com/magey/classic-warrior/wiki/Attack-table#weapon-skill should be the same hit chanche for ranged weapons.

Aimed and multi have been normalized in 1.10 ( they do more damage on dhc ):
https://wowwiki.fandom.com/wiki/Patch_1.10.0

Proc chance is 33% ( stated on a Reddit thread, not sure about this) which is really good considered that fire damage is not reduced by armour:
https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/dcvpwb/hunters_dont_buy_dwarven_hand_cannon/

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Topic starter Posted : 15/10/2019 4:39 am
morbidmike
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Don't get dwarven hand cannon if you PvP with Scatter Shot. When you Scatter Shot it can proc the fireblast and it will break Scatter.

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Posted : 15/10/2019 12:45 pm
Hinien
(@hinien)
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Don't get dwarven hand cannon if you PvP with Scatter Shot. When you Scatter Shot it can proc the fireblast and it will break Scatter.

Ouch.
Something I didn't think about.
Thanks for the info. Saved me a hundred gold

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Topic starter Posted : 15/10/2019 2:11 pm
disco
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Eminent Member

Also, friendly reminder that https://classic.wowhead.com/item=19107/bloodseeker is regarded as pre raid BIS until you get the leaf. This won't be a factor until Phase 2 however, but just something to keep in mind if the leaf doesn't drop for you beforehand.

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Posted : 21/10/2019 12:26 am
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