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Candletaker
(@candletaker)
Eminent Member

So to clarify I'm not trying to get into the beta and don't have an active sub. I don't watch a lot of classic wow content on twitch or youtube, maybe an hour or so in the evening.

*Disclaimer* This is just my personal opinion and probably isn't true, however this is a reasonable conclusion I came to after seeing the insane number of memes and posts about streamers getting beta keys.

The quick and dirty is Blizz is giving out additional keys to a broad range of content creators so that the players who watch them will sign up for a monthly subscription, expecting that they too will get an invite to the beta. Please remember that Blizz is publicly traded company.

This may not have been their intention in the beginning however it seems to be the recent trend.

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Topic starter Posted : 26/05/2019 10:29 am
Derek
(@derek)
Eminent Member

To be honest, I think the conspiracy theories go a bit too far sometimes. How many subs will they really catch with the streamer advertisements? I would think that the majority of the people that watch WoW Classic streams were vanilla players that are currently not subbed, and don't intend to sub before classic is released.

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Posted : 26/05/2019 10:36 am
teebling
(@teebling)
Noble Member

Candletaker holy shit long time no see!

Yeah, probably the case that subs for a chance of a beta invite was a financial move for them. However I imagine it was both a case of 'lets make some money from this' but also a very reliable way for them to gauge how much interest there is in the game beyond the data offered by their web analytics etc. Sales numbers for subs that were directly proportionate to that announcement of beta access requirements will have given them something to work from internally for the final release of the game.

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Posted : 26/05/2019 10:39 am
Gniddikon
(@gniddikon)
Eminent Member

Let's be fair, they could've not done the announcement, that beta invites are basically done with.

Instead, they told us so people would stop subscribing just for the chance at beta. Which I think was a fair move.

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Posted : 26/05/2019 11:23 am
Candletaker
(@candletaker)
Eminent Member

Let's be fair, they could've not done the announcement, that beta invites are basically done with.

Instead, they told us so people would stop subscribing just for the chance at beta. Which I think was a fair move.

Can you link blue post plz?

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Topic starter Posted : 26/05/2019 11:30 am
Executive
(@executive)
Eminent Member

It's not an unpopular opinion, everyone that was paying attention when they announced it knew that.

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Posted : 26/05/2019 11:32 am
Gniddikon
(@gniddikon)
Eminent Member

Let's be fair, they could've not done the announcement, that beta invites are basically done with.

Instead, they told us so people would stop subscribing just for the chance at beta. Which I think was a fair move.

Can you link blue post plz?

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-classic-testing-access-as-of-may-22/179883

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Posted : 26/05/2019 11:43 am
Linguine
(@linguine)
Reputable Member

I think they were just acknowledging that people would complain if preference wasn't given to them, the paying customers.

I don't think they intended for anyone to resub, just to reward those who were currently subbed.

Or maybe they didn't want excessive private server reports and would rather recruit people from retail who have no idea what they're doing.

EDIT: I don't intend to apologize for them, but you have to realize people would complain either way with such a tiny beta. They just had to choose which group was going to get upset.

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Posted : 26/05/2019 11:44 am
Samaraner
(@samaraner)
Estimable Member

Are conspiracy theories unpopular opinions? Interesting take.

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Posted : 26/05/2019 12:40 pm
Candletaker
(@candletaker)
Eminent Member

I don't think they intended for anyone to resub, just to reward those who were currently subbed.

I know blizz is a small indie company but how naive do you think they are?

That said, the amount of closed beta invites that we’re sending out is rapidly decreasing as we have met our current population needs for testing. We’ll regularly reevaluate the need for additional invites as we go through the testing process.

Sounds like they just excused themselves to continue business as usual.

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Topic starter Posted : 26/05/2019 1:24 pm
Bumlebi
(@bumlebi)
Trusted Member

Blizzard is a company. Companies need to make money, and in this case it's your money they make if you decide to give it to them.

Why is this so hard to understand? If you believe it's ethically incorrect to pay for a chance at beta access, I have just the solution for you; don't pay. Your opinion is not at all unpopular, but -let's be honest- it's very entitled.

You're not baited into paying, you're gambling and as the adult you are you have all the rights in the world to do so. It just so happens as it is with gambling that some win and some don't.

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Posted : 26/05/2019 2:48 pm
indirect
(@indirect)
Active Member

They said, clear as day, they'll be extremely selective in beta invites. They also only said a sub is required. If you're too poor to not be able to afford a skipped meal at McDonalds for a sub, then you shouldn't be subscribing anyway. They didnt force you to pay either. You chose to. There is no baiting, everything was CLEARLY laid out.

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Posted : 26/05/2019 3:12 pm
Bumlebi
(@bumlebi)
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Posted : 26/05/2019 3:18 pm
Kurzogg
(@kurzogg)
Trusted Member

This is absolutely what is happening. Blizzard and the streamers that were invited to the "Media Summit" are working together. The streamers will get a hilarious amount of views/donations/subs because they alone have access to classic and everyone wants to know what's up. This makes it unbearable for us classic fans so we re-sub with no chance of getting in until whenever the Content Creators and Blizzard decide they can't milk views anymore.

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Posted : 26/05/2019 4:07 pm
indirect
(@indirect)
Active Member

The streamers will get a hilarious amount of views/donations/subs because they alone have access to classic

Are you truly that fucking delusional?

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Posted : 26/05/2019 4:47 pm
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