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NinjaBomb
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Choose the best overall race to roll as Horde Warrior in Classic, from these 2 options: Orc and Tauren.
Take in consideration the best choice to fulfill all roles: PVE DPS, PVE TANK and PVP.
If you can, explain your pick.

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Topic starter Posted : 08/07/2019 7:16 am
ShamelessEU
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Troll

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Posted : 08/07/2019 7:21 am
Raven
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Orc, Tauren isn't even comparable to it ???????

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Posted : 08/07/2019 7:24 am
ShamelessEU
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Orc, Tauren isn't even comparable to it ???????

Leeway disagrees

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Posted : 08/07/2019 7:27 am
Linguine
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PvE DPS: Orc due to https://classic.wowhead.com/spell=20572/blood-fury and https://classic.wowhead.com/spell=20574/axe-specialization (Large DPS increase when using Axes, and rogues can't use Axes so, even better!)

PvP: Generally it is chosen as Orc due to https://classic.wowhead.com/spell=20573/hardiness , which will get used a lot on the front lines. Blood Fury isn't used as much here because you don't want it to conflict with pots or potential heals. https://classic.wowhead.com/spell=20549/war-stomp just isn't as good when you're soaking damage.

PvE Tank: Not sure, but I do know the main factors would be if https://classic.wowhead.com/spell=20574/axe-specialization gives benefits in the way of +hit, ect. in a significant amount to beat out https://classic.wowhead.com/spell=20550/endurance . Either way, I am guessing that it is Orc because of Axe Spec and Hardiness again.

I believe Tauren is still a worthy runner-up for PvP and Tanking (could be wrong), but on PvE DPS there is nothing that they bring to the table.

EDIT: I am not taking into account leeway here because I have not had my memory refreshed in Beta and may not affect things as much as assumed.

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Posted : 08/07/2019 7:31 am
Zanthir
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Tauren for the larger hitbox, will be super useful in both PvE and PvP. Unless you want to do axes, then the Orc weapon skill is a huge plus. Stun resist is nice for PvP, but being able to melee with a larger range is huge imo.

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Posted : 08/07/2019 7:32 am
NinjaBomb
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Orc, Tauren isn't even comparable to it ???????

What do you mean?
Of course it is.. Tauren is perfectly viable.
+5% HP, increased hit range (take leeway in consideration too), war stomp...
Skarm, one of the best tanks in the game is rolling Tauren for Classic.
Sonii, one of the best Warriors PvP in Beta won a bunch of duels against the best players on the Tournaments these past few weeks. Also rolling as Tauren.

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Topic starter Posted : 08/07/2019 7:33 am
Linguine
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Sonii, one of the best Warriors PvP in Beta won a bunch of duels against the best players on the Tournaments these past few weeks. Also rolling as Tauren.

War Stomp is a CD racial and good for 1v1 dueling, so that makes sense. Hardiness is much more of a group racial being that it is passive and you may be getting hit by many people at once (hopefully with a healer in the back somewhere), meaning a higher chance for stuns from one of them.

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Posted : 08/07/2019 7:36 am
pan0phobik
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Orc. I'm biased pretty strongly since I'm a huge Orc fan in the lore but I'm also a big fan of the racials.

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Posted : 08/07/2019 7:49 am
Tec
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I’d go with Orc out of those 2, not that Tauren is a bad option either.

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Posted : 08/07/2019 8:07 am
Erik
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Stun resist vs melee range

Trinkets don't remove stun if I recall
Melee range is nice for being kited

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Posted : 08/07/2019 8:18 am
Xaldron
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Choose the best overall race to roll as Horde Warrior in Classic, from these 2 options: Orc and Tauren.
Take in consideration the best choice to fulfill all roles: PVE DPS, PVE TANK and PVP.
If you can, explain your pick.

This really depends. But, arguably I'd say Orc has a slight advantage on TPS as prot (if you wear an ax) and DPS as any dps spec. For pvp hands down orc due to hardiness, however war stomp can be useful as well.

For tanking I'd still personally choose Tauren. War stomp helps in aoe tanking situations and 5% extra total health is really good. Nature resistance is also a little helpfull in some content like AQ.

Worth mentioning is that tauren has a bigger hitbox, meaning they are able to hit targets from further away, but also to be hit from farther away.

If I understood you correctly you want to be able to play all given roles at different times during classic and not stick to one spec or role. In that case, purely objectively I'd say Orc. However, I'd strongly suggest you pick the race that appeals to you the most. Both can be worked with and the differences aren't big enough to be worth picking something other than what you'd really rather play.

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Posted : 08/07/2019 8:45 am
Linguine
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It is a lot easier to work around Axe Spec on Horde than it is to work around Sword and Mace spec on Alliance, simply being that there are plenty of options that aren't axes, and not that many that are.

Tauren's comparison in PvE therefore isn't the same as Human vs. Gnome.

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Posted : 08/07/2019 9:19 am
Kchlangendin
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Guys, don't think i'm trying to be salt but these topics starting to be redicilouse. Every class is good, every race is good, just release yourself from those shackles and pick class and race that you enjoy most. Play the game its meant to be played and stop those min-maxes, jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez
Cheers Smile

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Posted : 08/07/2019 9:40 am
NinjaBomb
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Guys, don't think i'm trying to be salt but these topics starting to be redicilouse. Every class is good, every race is good, just release yourself from those shackles and pick class and race that you enjoy most. Play the game its meant to be played and stop those min-maxes, jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez
Cheers Smile

Sorry if this is a repetitive post. I just wanted to see what would be the BIS race for Warrior now that leeway is confirmed by Blizzard and the last PvP tourneys highlighted Tauren Warriors. I really like both races equally, "fantasy" wise.

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Topic starter Posted : 08/07/2019 12:17 pm
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