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Steerclear
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From a purely Vanilla standpoint, having not played much classic since, I was able to tank well and DPS well as a 5/31/15 warrior. It wasn't difficult to do, especially at the time. I eventually went full fury, though, and just ravaged everyone. So yeah, as it's been stated, that chart is absolutely incorrect.

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Posted : 21/08/2019 4:34 pm
Black Monarch
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Anyone who uses "S" and "S+" as tiers is automatically wrong. Tiers begin at A.

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Posted : 21/08/2019 4:35 pm
Caspus
(@caspus)
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I disagree with everyone here. Prot paladin is S tier which is correct. Ya'll are just salty. New meta's are coming out and its time to get with the times. Reroll prot. Go go go. Fury warriors suck, I played one and was stuck at the top of the chart. It was boring how viable I was. Don't play fury warrior.

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Posted : 21/08/2019 4:39 pm
Kolvacs
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Anyone who uses "S" and "S+" as tiers is automatically wrong. Tiers begin at A.

You're actually just straight-up wrong. LoL

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Posted : 21/08/2019 4:39 pm
Selexin
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There's a fine balancing act and the nochanges crowd fears that blizz would get it wrong.

I guess the main point here being their track record. They have homogenized all classes by trying to truly 'balance' all the classes and specs. Prot paladin shouldnt have a taunt, Druids shouldn't have an out of combat resurrect. They are hybrids, they have their other utilities. Don't get me wrong, there are some broken specs that could be fixed, but trying to make everything balance/optimal etc. doesn't work without killing the game.

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Posted : 21/08/2019 4:46 pm
Gensei
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What was the old UBRS raid size? I know it was at least a 10-man originally, but was it a 15 man? I don't remember anymore. But back in the original game I wasn't raiding, and small group content like 5 man dungeons and even up to the original UBRS was my game. It would be pretty cool if there were a few more small UBRS sized 10/15/20 man raids added in eventually for people going that path. I wouldn't target it to compete with the bigger raids in terms of gear output, but more of an extension of the smaller group content you mentioned. I'm also onboard with adding stuff like Kara and other additional big 40 man raid content. Lots of options to fit within the original framework and design philosophies of the game.

Big problem with a Classic+ concept is everybody seems to want something different. But I keep hearing about how oldschool runescape gates new content by putting it up to a community vote. And they require 75% super majority approval before they even begin developing new stuff. This could be a good mechanism to keep the crap out here too.

Sure, but raid content in the old vanilla style seems like a really, really safe bet. I think you can get supermajorities on board with that.

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Posted : 21/08/2019 4:51 pm
Selexin
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I disagree with everyone here. Prot paladin is S tier which is correct. Ya'll are just salty. New meta's are coming out and its time to get with the times. Reroll prot. Go go go. Fury warriors suck, I played one and was stuck at the top of the chart. It was boring how viable I was. Don't play fury warrior.

You dropped this:
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Posted : 21/08/2019 5:11 pm
Orca
 Orca
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anyone know if an undead fury warrior will do a lot less DPS than a human or orc making use of their weapon skill racials?

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Posted : 21/08/2019 5:39 pm
beached
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as much as I hate to say it, everyone says my precious enhancement shaman will never be a contender

Moonkin might be able to get under that....

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Posted : 21/08/2019 6:40 pm
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