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Cletus
(@cletus)
Estimable Member

I know this is the classic forum but....
Mark today as the day/week that PvP as died (or been killed) in WoW. This week's "PvP" event puts you against an AI enemy in Arathi Basin. It counts for honor and conquest (the two things that were the beginning of the end for PvP). This is not PvP quite literally.

I could write more about this but it's not really relevant to vanilla or classic other than the fact that this is like receiving news that someone in your family has died that you used to love but grew to despise.

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Topic starter Posted : 20/03/2019 9:22 pm
Selexin
(@selexin)
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I'm totally out of the loop here, are you referring to announcement for retail WoW changes to AB? Also, if you remember the entire point of AV is killing an AI enemy in classic. While I agree AB shouldn't be about PvE elements, I am guessing they are trying to spice up what is probably a pretty dead BG in retail.

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Posted : 20/03/2019 9:26 pm
Cletus
(@cletus)
Estimable Member

I'm totally out of the loop here, are you referring to announcement for retail WoW changes to AB? Also, if you remember the entire point of AV is killing an AI enemy in classic. While I agree AB shouldn't be about PvE elements, I am guessing they are trying to spice up what is probably a pretty dead BG in retail.

Yes but in this case the opposing players are AI instead of just an end boss. Old AV may have had an NPC at the end but I spent enough time in the old AV to rack up 1000 HK's at least twice against other players. And yes, it is likely a dead BG but this puts it all the way in it's grave lol

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Topic starter Posted : 20/03/2019 9:35 pm
Selexin
(@selexin)
Prominent Member

I'm totally out of the loop here, are you referring to announcement for retail WoW changes to AB? Also, if you remember the entire point of AV is killing an AI enemy in classic. While I agree AB shouldn't be about PvE elements, I am guessing they are trying to spice up what is probably a pretty dead BG in retail.

Yes but in this case the opposing players are AI instead of just an end boss. Old AV may have had an NPC at the end but I spent enough time in the old AV to rack up 1000 HK's at least twice against other players. And yes, it is likely a dead BG but this puts it all the way in it's grave lol

All enemies are AI? This is hilarious....

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Posted : 20/03/2019 9:49 pm
Cletus
(@cletus)
Estimable Member

All enemies are AI? This is hilarious....

Yes

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Topic starter Posted : 20/03/2019 9:52 pm
Selexin
(@selexin)
Prominent Member

Comp Stomp is this week's PvP Brawl. This a great opportunity to explore the Remastered Arathi Basin map, without having to deal with PvP. The enemy team will be composed of AI NPCs.

Bahahah! Let me repeat that for everyone:
explore the Remastered Arathi Basin map, without having to deal with PvP.

That's GOLD Jerry!

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Posted : 20/03/2019 10:13 pm
William
(@william)
Estimable Member

Yeah, this is ridiculous, but since I don't play current WoW, I honestly don't give a shit. We'll have our own PvP filled Arathi to concern ourselves with.

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Posted : 20/03/2019 11:11 pm
Razor
(@razor)
Trusted Member

Amazing. Retail train is really full-speed going somewhere. Have no idea where though. Hope at least the developers know that.

By the way, anyone is aware of the reason for this initiative? And one more question just out of curiosity - you get PvP rewards for completing such matches, right?

With regard to AV being half AI battleground, I've never looked at it as somehow non PvP activity. Guarding your general is the same as guarding the flag - a simple object of interest, having no impact to ongoing PvP fighting.

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Posted : 21/03/2019 12:07 am
Faendor
(@faendor)
Reputable Member

Simply disgusting

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Posted : 21/03/2019 12:45 am
Nymis
(@nymis)
Reputable Member

To be fair, this would probably be as grave as you make it sound if people actually played AB and cared about PvP in general. It's very hard to care when the rewards are garbage RNG gear or cosmetics.

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Posted : 21/03/2019 1:09 am
Oderlods
(@oderlods)
Eminent Member

I get why they would try to get people to try out the new AB map, but honestly, wtf lmao. What's the point of AB if it is not to PvP? Do they want to reconvert it to a PvE event/thing? Idk man, shit's weird, but I couldn't care less lmao

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Posted : 21/03/2019 1:12 am
Wrekk
(@wrekk)
Eminent Member

What bothers me the most is that BFA has so many good aspects, it could have easily been an enjoyable expansion. But somehow Blizzard keeps adding features no one ever asked for. I mean, they even take the effort to remaster AB and the first thing they think of is this?

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Posted : 21/03/2019 2:04 am
centurion
(@centurion)
Estimable Member

Wow, I can't say I regret leaving retail last year. Big oof.

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Posted : 21/03/2019 5:40 am
Relik
(@relik)
Reputable Member

Retail is in a terrible state.

That being said, it still holds my attention more than most games, if only for an hour or so at a time.

I think I just have trouble letting go of all the time invested over the years. Sad

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Posted : 21/03/2019 5:51 am
Firelord
(@firelord)
Estimable Member

I didn't even know that Arathi Basin was getting a remake.

But yes, I do think it's quite bad that people can see everything with no "resistance" whatsoever, with "resistance" being having to actually participate in real PvP to explore and feel the new map.

I do feel the same with LFR.

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Posted : 21/03/2019 5:52 am
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