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FTHforever
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Yeah getting high ranks on Northdale isn't something you do casually LoL

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Posted : 06/06/2019 3:29 am
aeh
 aeh
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Yeah getting high ranks on Northdale isn't something you do casually LoL
But with my premade back in august/september it was fun.

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Posted : 06/06/2019 4:36 am
Pluuf
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Piggy-backing off of this; what rank can I realistically expect to achieve when my playschedule doesn't allow me more than 5 hours per week?

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Posted : 06/06/2019 4:48 am
neofrag
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what rank can I realistically expect to achieve when my playschedule doesn't allow me more than 5 hours per week?

With approx. 5h a week, I would expect a slow climb to a rank between 5 and 7.

But it highly depends on participation-rate of the battleground server-group.

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Posted : 06/06/2019 5:11 am
aeh
 aeh
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On a low competitive server also more. But R6 should be realistic.
But tbh. if you only have 5h per week, focus on PvE, get your Gear in PvE and do PvP later! Smile

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Posted : 06/06/2019 8:42 am
Sierick
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I can at most play 20 hours a week so:

Would rank 11 be realistic for someone playing 20 hours a week in Pugs?

If not would rank 10 be realistic for someone playing 20 hours a week in Pugs?

Thanks in advance

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Posted : 11/06/2019 11:06 am
aeh
 aeh
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puuh, 20h a week would probably hard for r11.
Maybe if you play 2-3 weeks a little bit more. (depends on the server)

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Posted : 11/06/2019 11:09 am
beached
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Ok, noob question incoming on this thread. I never pvp. If I do, I just pug a battleground. Never bothered myself with rank gear or even bothering to look at ranks.

Do ranks expire every week? Like, if I work my ass off for rank 13, is it only for 1 week? How does the rank gear work. If I have rank 13 pvp gear, and I am Rank 13 this week, I can wear it. But if I dont pvp for 1 week, I cant wear it anymore? None of the pvp guides talk about this. They say you need to rank up compared to other players, and the the cycled are 1 week long, but never address if you can get down ranked week to week, or if I need to maintain 6 different sets of pvp gear and equip only the peices of the rank I am that specific week.

Thanks for explaining!

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Posted : 15/10/2019 10:37 am
cigarettes
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So, it's obviously dependent on the server. But, to some degree, if I were to simply play a butt-ton, would I consistently rank up?

I'm honestly less concerned with perfect efficiency and coordinating with people on my server to maximize my honor gain, that just doesn't seem fun to me.

TL;DR will I be able to be my blue PvP set by just playing the game?

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Posted : 15/10/2019 12:23 pm
morbidmike
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So, it's obviously dependent on the server. But, to some degree, if I were to simply play a butt-ton, would I consistently rank up?

I'm honestly less concerned with perfect efficiency and coordinating with people on my server to maximize my honor gain, that just doesn't seem fun to me.

TL;DR will I be able to be my blue PvP set by just playing the game?

Blue PvP set should be possible by playing "normally" (that is without a premade). Here it's a question of how you define playing normally; I would not consider PvPing 20-30 hours a week playing normally. 20-30 hours a week was what it took for me to hit rank 10 on pservers. It will probably be a lower investment on Classic because at least on my server people seem less fanatic than on pservers but still, you will need a decent time investment to hit rank 10.
Ok, noob question incoming on this thread. I never pvp. If I do, I just pug a battleground. Never bothered myself with rank gear or even bothering to look at ranks.

Do ranks expire every week? Like, if I work my ass off for rank 13, is it only for 1 week? How does the rank gear work. If I have rank 13 pvp gear, and I am Rank 13 this week, I can wear it. But if I dont pvp for 1 week, I cant wear it anymore? None of the pvp guides talk about this. They say you need to rank up compared to other players, and the the cycled are 1 week long, but never address if you can get down ranked week to week, or if I need to maintain 6 different sets of pvp gear and equip only the peices of the rank I am that specific week.

Thanks for explaining!

Ranks expire but you can keep using the gear even if you no longer have the rank. The rank is only required for buying the gear, not for using it.

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Posted : 15/10/2019 12:39 pm
Pippina
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Ranks expire but you can keep using the gear even if you no longer have the rank. The rank is only required for buying the gear, not for using it.

I know it's not this way in 1.13, but didn't players have to maintain their rank in order to use the PVP gear in the very early patches? People would have to not only get to rank 14, but remain at rank 14 to use the gear? LoL

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Posted : 15/10/2019 1:32 pm
beached
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Ranks expire but you can keep using the gear even if you no longer have the rank. The rank is only required for buying the gear, not for using it.

Thank you so much. Why in the world could I not find that information ANYWHERE. So, when phase 2 and honor system comes out. I need to try hard like no other to get R13. That is my BiS for rank 2 and 3, and 2nd or 3rd BiS for the rest of game.

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Posted : 15/10/2019 2:21 pm
Pippina
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Why in the world could I not find that information ANYWHERE.

It's surprisingly hard to find accurate information about the version of patch 1.13.2 that we currently play. There is so much stuff written about this game that was accurate when written that is no longer accurate today in regards to patch 1.13.2. I have found that even pages talking about "Classic" often go off on tangents and describe how things work in WotLK, Legion, etc. There is also a lot of stuff about "Classic" (which itself is kind of meaningless.. think about how many things written about earlier patches of classic are no longer true - exploiting layers to reset dungeon bosses, etc) which are based on private servers that don't work at all in the current iteration of the game. The noise to signal ratio is really poor and you have to be careful about what information you're reading and when it was written.

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Posted : 15/10/2019 4:46 pm
Hinien
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It heavily depends on the server and how many people are competetively PVPing.

But I can tell you what I know from my experience.

My brother reached rank 14 on a heavily populated PVP server ( Rank 14 Troll Hunter - Yoghurt - Hakkar EU )

For the first 8 ranks, he played alone. usually 4-8 hours a day almost every day. When he couldn't play I played for him couple hours a day. He did this for a couple of months.

Then he got picked up by a premade Group. He actually had to play less since they usually won each arathi in 5 minutes, 5 bases to 0, 95% of the time. Played for 3-5 hours a day. The amount of honor he did skyrocketed.
Every week had to stop PVPing after a while because there is a sweet spot where everybody gets more CP if they're on the same honor percentage bracket. And nobody on horde side did more honor than them. Everybody on the premade just did what they had to do, following leader instructions.

There were a decided order where the premade leader choose who would have been the next High warlord, he would be the one to do more honor than everybody each week (or something like that.. it was 13 years ago and I was a child, memory is a bit fuzzy).

If somebody that PVPed a lot would show up, they included him in the premade. There were addons that would ket you know how much honor people are doing (You had to select them and wait a bit), but i don't remember the name.

If somebody did not follow instructions, like continuing accumulating honor after they told him to stop, they would just not include him in the premade.

It took him 6 months.

EDIT: after re-reading this post i want to add: I suck at english 😛

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Posted : 16/10/2019 12:38 am
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